"I really don't know, I think they just developed over the years"
NW spoke up and said " I think it was Mr. John Dirtyword, who invented them"
"No", I said "I don't think that is exactly true"
The conversation did get me to thinking, "Where did bad words originate"? So I came home, ate my raisin bran, and poured a cup of coffee and sat down to research.
Most of the words were derived from the Germanic language.
Take the "F-word" for instance:
This
is an old word. OLD. In fact, we aren't entirely certain we can trace it back
definitively because it was so much more prevalent in common speech than in
written form. It is assumed to originate from the Germanic languages (the
German "f****n", the Dutch "fokken", the Norwegian
"f*kka" and the Swedish "fokka") but there are similar
usages in the Latin/Greek languages
There are plenty of urban legends surrounding the history of this particular word, but most have been found to be false. For example, the word "f**k" did not come from "File Under Carnal Knowledge", "Fornication Under the Command of the King", False Use of Carnal Knowledge", and any other iterations involving acronyms.
The first known occurrence of the word (at least the most accepted) is in code in a poem in a French/Latin mix which satirizes the Carmelite monks of
In my search for the origins of words, I also came across that there was once an African tribal king Named "Mutafuk" who demanded all his subjects go around saying his name. Well, it evolved in to the now black communities which is why they call each other "Mother -----" ( Okay, so that might not be entirely true! )
"S---T" Probably an Old English word, it is very likely another one with its roots in the Germanic languages. That's where all the best words seem to come from. The Old English noun "scite" and the Middle Low German "schite"... both meaning dung, plus the word "scitte" meaning diarrhea. It first showed up in writing back in the 14th century, so this is another cuss word for the ages.
"D--MN"- First actually started out at as the french words "Damner" or Latin " Damnare" which both meant "loss" in the old English language it was "Damnum" which meant to pass judgement upon. Which is probably why the words "Damnation, and Hell" are so often used by theologians. And appears so much in the bible.
Basically what I learned is that they all started out as just mere words, but evolved over the centuries with emotions, and different meanings. I giggle some times when I remember a sermon my childhood paster would preach on the subject, he would look down from the pulpit and tell us that people use profanity, because they are too uneducated to think of something more intelligent to say. Wow at the time it really made me want to become smart so I could think of other ways to express myself.
So, now I have completed my research in to the history of bad words, I feel all the more wiser and now I can sit with him and explain how they were created, and try to get him to understand that I know they are words, but they are not nice words, and our little mouths and brains should choose not to use them.
-JUGM
Mostly, the "vulgar" language was what was spoken by the English peasants, where the Norman nobility (95% or more of England's nobles, after 1066) spoke French. Eventually, "vulgar" went from meaning "common" to meaning "nasty." The English terms were still being used in Shakespeare's plays, as humor for the groundlings, in most cases, but wasn't considered "bad" language yet.
ReplyDeleteThe "bad" words started to be considered bad sometime in the early seventeen hundreds.
(Remembered from one of the more interesting History of the English Language lectures--interesting because of the horrified reactions by the prudes around me that didn't like hearing the words even in a historical context.)
HH : I did read in my research that vulgar terms were used quite a bit in shakespearan theatre and in his writings. I would think that true profanity did develope with the on set of the `1700s as people were out more exploring and the on set of the age of piracy.
DeleteA course like that I would love to take, or go to a lecture. I find it fascinating how things got named and got their specific meanings.
Heroditus,
DeleteI really despised the prudes in History of the English Language, linguistic courses, communication, and literature in general. The professor would actually cater to these middle-aged women who did not want to hear a bad word in a discussion. They were absolutely horrified that 'frigging' and 'fricking' were all euphemisms for the other 'F' word. AND, that they had been saying these words. And, they were espousing all their Christian reasons for avoiding impure speech. GAG
I thought we were going to have to get out smelling salts for some women when we discussed "la petite mort,' the French for orgasm. 'Vagina dentata' discussion had to be prefaced by a professors little lecture that we are all adults and we will say words that may not suit your taste. "Leave now if you think the lecture and discussion will be offensive." Some 40-ish women left in a huff.
Words became 'bad' because they were in the language of the uneducated, "common" people, of Germanic roots. French and Latin were the languages of the educated, used in the Church and courts of law. The people who made the rules about bad language spoke French or read Latin and could influence opinions. Even the nobles who spoke English affected the manners and speech of the French.
LOL!! I really enjoyed this post. MY one bad word that I need to watch is S**t. I say that without thinking sometimes.
ReplyDeleteBeth- glad you liked it, I first thought it would be one of those that people read, but did not respond to. My favorite word is "D--N" especially while driving and usually with the kids in the back seat.. ND picked up the term "Jack A$$" he saw it on a board game at gander mountain store and proceeded to repeat it for the rest of the day. But since then he has picked up "Son of a Bisquit Eater" from me. I know I must be more careful
DeleteI like words and discussions of words, so this is interesting to me. I would tell my child that once everyone used the words, but other people decided not to say the words aloud, in public, or in front of women and children, that there is nothing wrong with words, just how people used them. Well, that is honest. We just do certain things but not in public. Think picking nose, scratching in certain places--those are good manners just like not saying certain words. Well, that is how I would explain it for a small child. It was a really good question that he asked.
Deletethat is pretty much what I told both our boys. And yea he is a very inquisitive child...
DeleteAnd what may be bad HERE, is not necessarily bad in other countries... sigh... SO confusing... :-)
ReplyDeleteOMG I know... I have several European friends and its funny the different things they do that we don't, or the things we find taboo, that is common place to them.
DeleteYears ago when I lived briefly in Alabama we had a preacher who just loved to ask a little 3 year old girl where her favorite place was to eat. Not being able to pronounce her ch words very well she would reply Sh!t Fillet!
ReplyDeleteMy niece use to call trucks "F---" pretty funny lol
DeleteGood research! I learned a few new things myself today. Those kids and their questions!
ReplyDeletebetty
Glad you liked it...I actually learned quite a bit too. Next will be one on the middle finger
DeleteWho gives a Fokker, oops, sorry sailor potty mouth. Need some Orbitz.
ReplyDeleteI would make u stick soap on your mouth but you may go blind.......lol
DeleteI remember so many nights on the mid-watch and looking through Janes Fighting Aircraft, since I was an Air Intercept Controller and had to stay up to date on opposing aircraft and seeing all those Fokker Aircraft. :)
Deletebad words are words like "gun control" or " last call". The words you are talking about are just everyday conversation around here! good post! the rat
ReplyDeleteMy kids are deaf ad earning to talk, so we have a lot of unintentional bad words being said around here. Our middle daughter has a heck of time and it often sounds like she is saying sh*& for several other sh words.
ReplyDeleteI never ever used to cuss, but I do now occasionally. As odd as it may sound, it's kind of a freedom thing for me.